All right.
Welcome back to Full Spectrum Living with CBD.
I am Meredith Your Cohost.
And I am here today with Jessica and Adriane,
who are both with bluegrass hemp oil.
And today we were just having a conversation before
we we started recording this, and we were talking
about how many people are actually using CBD products
versus how much it's now available across the country
and why people aren't really stepping into this as
a solution or why people are kind of freaked
out or afraid to try these products.
And that was something that you
guys are both really passionate about.
So, Adriane, why do you think people are
not necessarily jumping in with both feet?
Yeah, it's so crazy.
So we've seen a couple of different
articles anywhere from 7% of the population
are taking CBD products upwards to 20%.
So somewhere in between, there
is probably the right answer.
But you're right, there's so many
other people that aren't taking it.
And there's a few things, I guess, Jessica and
we kind of talk about this a lot, and
we talk to customers all the time.
And first thing, I think they're just kind of nervous.
They're worried about the stigma.
Even though it has been around for a
few years, I think they're still worried about
what's my family going to think.
What are my kids going to think?
My mom, my physician, my employer.
We have consumers that probably still haven't told their
doctor that they're taking our products or actually talked
with a woman today who said she told her
son, but she hadn't told her daughter.
So again, it's that nervousness of people
thinking that they're doing something nefarious.
So do you think that that's like maybe just kind of
a cultural aftermath of how in just talking in the US,
we've been taught and brought up that if you're sick, you
go to the doctor and the doctor knows best and that
they're going to give you what's best.
But then you start looking at the statistics and
it's like doctors aren't even educated around this or
nutrition as well as you guys are?
I definitely think that's a huge factor.
I think there's a lot of reefer madness
stigma still hanging on, which is insane.
But we have people in their 50s, 60s, 70s who come
in and they kind of get a little thrill out of
their purchase there because even though they know logically this is
not an intoxicating product, this is a legal product, and it's
great for help with almost no side effects.
They still get this little jolt out of their
purchase sometimes with us, like they're doing something taboo
and it's just leftovers from the reefer bandits era.
I think when you talk about
physicians, I think it's very interesting.
So there are a lot of physicians
that will shake their finger at you.
If you say, I don't want a flu shot, so much
less you say, hey, I want to take this natural holistic
product instead of the Pharmaceuticals instead of the pain meds.
Actually, more and more physicians, excuse me,
are getting on board with it.
So I don't want to throw them all under that same bus.
But there still are quite a few
that will absolutely not support CBD.
So you can understand why consumers may
be a little nervous and getting started.
You've got people like my father, who is a
veteran, who I think it would be life changing
for him in many ways to take our product.
And his fear is that he'll lose
his veteran benefits by taking our product.
Even though we know that's not true and we
know that we have clients who take it with
no issues through the VA and it's approved and
all of that, he's still really concerned.
So there's just a lot of leftover fear, I think.
But we've been taught fear around the
cannabis plant for a long time.
So it takes a while to unteach that, I think. Yeah.
Well, that's why we're here, though, right?
I mean, that's what you are
wanting to create with the show.
So what other reasons do people have?
So maybe there's a stigma around it, but what
else is keeping people from giving it a shot?
I think a lot of people
probably think it's snake oil, right.
Too good to be true.
Probably they may have tried a product
and it didn't work for them.
So they're just like, yeah, it's the next best thing.
It'll be gone just as quickly as it got here.
You always hear these new whether it's new essential
oils or celery juice or all these fads that,
yes, are definitely beneficial in their own right.
But to have that level of response that
we're seeing from consumers and all of the
studies that you can find on PubMed.
Gov with regards to cannabis and cannabinoids as
a treatment, as a viable treatment for these
conditions, it's a little different, right?
Yeah, I think that there's definitely
some snake oil to it.
So let me ask you something.
Sorry, Jessica, but just real quick, how long has
CBD been utilized for the things that you see
your customers and clients utilizing it for?
Well, so that's a great question.
So the endocannabinoid system.
And Jessica, correct me if I'm wrong.
I think it was discovered in the 90s.
Yes, discovered in the 90s.
And actually CBD was actually isolated and found
and discovered before THC was fun fact.
So it's definitely been there.
But a lot of the studies were focused on
the THC aspect because of its intoxicating factor.
Right.
That's what everybody wanted to figure out.
So CBD kind of took maybe a backseat to it.
So I'd say probably here more.
So within the last 20 years, what we've seen on PubMed.
Gov, which is the US Library of Medicine,
there's over 24,000 studies done on cannabis and
cannabinoids just within the last 20 years, that's
over three and a half studies per day.
So when they talk about there's not enough
studies to support the fact that cannabis or
cannabinoids are beneficial for this condition, that condition
called BS, to be perfectly honest, there may
not be 250 studies on one particular condition,
which may be what everybody wants.
But there's definitely enough studies out there
that are rooted in autoimmune or in
inflammatory conditions that are, in my opinion,
my professional opinion, definitely enough. Right.
For people to have some trust
in some faith in quality products.
That's the thing in quality products.
And combined with the information that does exist in
the research that has been done, combined with the
amount of anecdotal evidence that we're seeing now that
so many people are taking it's just really undeniable.
I think where the snake oil thing comes into play
is where it's maybe talked about in such an unrealistic
frame, like it will do this and it will do
that and it will fix every single thing.
I think that's easy to fall into.
Well, it must be snake oil,
because obviously that can't be true.
And so I think it's a matter of reframing how
we speak about it, because it could do all of
those things we don't know, particularly if it will do
every single thing for one person, although for some people
it has so many different ways where you see benefit,
but for others, it's one or two ways.
And that's still great.
So I think it's reframing how we speak about it
as well and the claims that are being made. Right.
I think that that's where they may have tried a product
and they may not be taking it today, but maybe they
tried one and it really has to look at.
Okay, so let's have a conversation
about what product you tried.
Where did you get it?
Was it bought in a convenience
store shelf or via Amazon?
Did you get it from a trusted source
where you know who's cultivating your plants, where
the plants came from, how was it extracted?
There are so many questions that again, when you go
and buy a bottle of shampoo on the shelf, you
don't ever have to ask yourself, right, you're just going
to go, I'm going to buy it. I've seen the commercial.
It's great.
Or if it's a pharmaceutical,
the physician prescribed it.
I know it's been this, that or whatever.
So, yeah, I know it's fine to take with CBD.
Again, it is kind of the wild while west out
there with products, but it really requires the consumer to
kind of educate themselves on what it is.
And then two also give it a fair shake.
There's a lot of people again, I think we are struck
with this Western Pharmacopia where I'm going to take a pill
and I'm going to feel better within an hour or two.
And with CBD, the way that it works within our
bodies, it doesn't necessarily act that way for everybody.
Now, I personally take it from migraines.
And I do see relief probably
almost immediately in that sense.
So from like a 15 to 20 minutes, which is fantastic.
But I also take it for arthritis does
not work the same way for my arthritis.
So it's really giving it a true test. Right.
So Jessica, she always talks about Page and how
it took two months, I believe, two months for
Page to actually see the benefits of CBD, two
really long months of us at that time.
When we started her on CBD, it was five years ago,
and no one was taking it, hardly at that time.
And so her psychiatrist was really concerned
and she called Child Protective Services honest.
And of course, that was immediately dismissed.
It's a legal product to give her.
But I think that, of course, would scare
any parent that that could possibly happen.
And they have to defend their choices and
have someone looking at that in that way.
For two months, we're sitting here thinking like,
oh, my gosh, we got CPS called on
us and we're taking her off of Pharmaceuticals,
and we don't even see that it's working.
And then it was boom, like a light switch
flipped or something because we just started seeing one
sign after another that things were improving and it
just continues to improve here still five years later.
So let me ask you this, like, you kind of alluded to
it a little bit, but I think it's like anything, right?
There are people who do good, and
then there are people who do a
disservice in any industry around any product.
I think the Internet is kind of
like actually helping us to see that. Right?
There's good information, there's mediocre
information, there's poor information.
But it must be seen with
the product quality here, too, right?
Like, if I can buy something on a drugstore
shelf, if I can buy something on Amazon and
I can buy something from you guys or other
high quality producers of different types of products, what
should consumers knowledge around that really be? Right?
Are all those things the same, or is there
a big difference between what I get at the
drugstore versus what I can buy from you guys?
There actually is.
And we can definitely I mean, that's a whole other
episode in and of itself, to be perfectly honest, like
things to look out and to check for.
But there's been a lot of independent studies.
There's been a lot of investigative reporting that some
news outlets have done, and they've taken products off
the shelf and they've sent them off for testing.
And the sad thing is there will be
numbers that are on the front of the
bottle claiming so many milligrams of CBD.
And whenever the test comes
back, there's nothing in there.
It's premium price.
And so no CBD or the level of CBD
that's supposed to be in there isn't in there.
Or it will actually will
test positive for toxic chemicals.
There's so many things that consumers you really
do have to do your research with this.
And I know everybody.
If you do want to try it, if you're deciding
to jump out of that not taking CBD into the
taking CBD bucket, you want to do your research. Right.
You want to be able to feel comfortable with
the people and the product that you're purchasing.
And honestly, word of mouth is the best way to go.
Right.
So talk to your friends that are taking it.
There are more out there than what you think.
Absolutely.
So it's really important then that the consumer
understand where their product is coming from.
Because what you're saying is
there's not regulation around this.
It's not like it's not like food. Right.
I think the biggest thing to that is if I could
say one thing is Amazon does not sell CBD products.
They are labeled to make you think that they are
CBD products, but they are not their hemp seed oil.
And the labeling is intentionally misleading.
It's the big issue that's very well known, and
a lot of people still fall for it because
it's cheaper than a quality CBD product would be.
But it's a hell of a lot more expensive than
hemp seed oil would be in a 1oz container.
You could get a stinking gallon of it
for the price that you'll pay on Amazon.
And that's what you're getting is hemp seed oil.
That's been intentionally mislabeled to appear to be a
CBD product, and they don't sell CBD on Amazon. Right.
So if people are a little bit freaked out because
of maybe the cultural view, maybe they also feel like
that you're saying it's a little bit of this snake
oils is too good to be true.
Could it really work because of people that may be
having over promised in the industry or their experiences?
What else are you guys seeing that is preventing
people from working with CBD products as a solution?
Yeah.
I think there's some people that just don't
realize the way that it could impact them.
So they think, like, I don't have severe
epilepsy or I don't have intense chronic pain
or medication is working for me.
But what they don't realize is that the
benefits of CBD goes far beyond that.
They're extremely beneficial for preventative, just
maintenance of the body, I guess.
So just by taking CBD regularly, you can
increase your body's ability to fight off toxins
from the environment and to calm inflammation in
the neurological system and potentially avoid neurodegenerative conditions
like Parkinson's or Alzheimer's.
We're still studying that, and that's
not a claim that I'm making.
It's just the potential that
looks promising for taking CBD.
There's been a couple of quality studies related to
that, and it looks like for the average person,
taking it preventatively is going to be more and
more a common use of CBD and just maintaining
balance in the body more optimally.
We all succumb to stressors and to cold and
fluid, but your ability to fight those off is
thought to be enhanced by CBD supplementation.
I know, like, when I take it regularly,
my whole family has come down with a
stomach bug, and I'm totally fine.
And that's happened twice.
And I'll say last year, I guess if you call
it an independent study where we were all in store.
So before we had moved our office
spaces, we office behind our retail location.
So we had a lot of people mulling in
and around the store middle of flu season.
We had customers coming in with flu.
We wiped things down and so forth.
But none of the employees got a flu shot,
and none of us also got the flu.
So I'm not saying that it can keep the
flu away, but I'm saying it helped us.
We are strong believers that it really did help our
immune system to be in prime fighting position against all
the germs that we were just being inundated with or
even when they're actively I think people don't associate CBD
use with a stomach bug or flu or something.
But I've used it for my son.
And back two days ago, he woke up in the
middle of the night rolling around with an upset stomach.
And I gave him a few drops.
And 1520 minutes later, he went to
sleep peacefully, and he was totally fine.
And so I think there's just uses that people
don't recognize for CBD that would very much benefit
them that they're just not really aware of yet.
That's fascinating, because I don't think that people think about
it for prevention as much as they we've heard so
much in the media, amazing stories like the ones that
you guys have shared with us here about people that
have had massive sea changes in really severe conditions that
were impairing their lives in really significant ways and the
lives of their family.
But I don't think that we've yet come to
think about it as a preventative so much.
It's making me think of a baby aspirin honestly, right
back in the day, aspirin was, like, sold out of
little special little vials by kind of a witch doctory
guy in the Old West or whatever.
Then it becomes largely accepted for
headache relief or for pain relief.
And now it's prescribed to help people
in stroke and like, heart attack prevention.
I think it is. Right.
Like they carry this little vial of it. Yes, ma'am.
Yeah. The baby aspirin.
And it's like but 100 years ago, man, I don't know.
Or maybe 200 years ago, whenever it was, we
wouldn't have admitted that we had that little Brown
vial with a Cork in our handbag. Right.
What's so interesting is then you think about that.
And then 40% give or take of medications back
in those olden days had a cannabis derivative. Right.
So then you think about you went from cannabis,
being part of a widely accepted pharmaceutical regimen or
therapeutic regimen and flip that to reefer madness years.
You get to the 1930s, and then they have
to have some bad guy that they're going after
80 years of prohibition to where we are today. Right.
Where we're trying to beat that stigma, to bring it back
to just a normal way to kind of help fight symptoms.
When you think of someone that you have worked
with, it's been like your ultimate skeptic, right.
That may be presented with one of these reasons for not
doing it and is
now just like a raving fan.
Do you have somebody like that that you can think of?I was going to say for a while there's
probably every consumer that walks in her I've heard
this will help, but come on, kind of reaction.
We had a gentleman, actually, who came in store, and
I don't necessarily know that he meets this criteria, but
he came in store and he bought it.
He said the arthritis in his ankle, it hurts so bad.
And we told him it's going to take time.
You have to give it his true test.
You can't just give up after a few days.
And he came in on day 30 and he said it was day 29.
I was so angry because my ankle was still killing me.
I was taking this product. It wasn't working.
He said, I knew I was going to come in today
and I was just going to talk to you about it.
And he said, and then I woke up and I
got out of bed and my ankle didn't hurt.
And I was like, yes.
So again, it's just those things.
Everybody sees relief at different times.
And he's an advocate for it.
I think Jessica actually talked with a veteran who
had, what was it, seven years of headaches?
Well, that's the story I was wanting to tell, actually.
That definitely sticks out in my mind because, yes,
I talked to him both in store and on
the phone, and he was certainly a skeptic.
We talked on the phone at length a few
times before he came in, and he had seven
years of chronic migraines that were extremely severe.
He ranked as eleven on the one to ten pain scale.
And he had zero days of relief in those seven years.
And so he was really at the
end of his will to continue.
And it was really powerful because he came
in the store after talking for a while.
It was still extremely kind of just
skeptical, I guess is the word.
And so I could see he was in pain.
I gave him a sample in store and before
he had left, his headache had gone down.
I think he said it was like
an eight or something like that.
And so for him, that was already a big deal.
And then when he got home, he called to let me
know his headache was gone for the first time in seven
years, day one and he maintained a headache free self.
He was headache free.
I can't honestly say if he's still headache free,
but I talked to him months and months afterwards
and he was still headache free at that point.
And I know he's still a recurring
customer who comes in, who orders online.
And the amount of relief that it provided him
immediately, it was a really powerful thing to witness
and it was really changing for him.
He was facing just giving up on life
and that really brought back everything for him. Well.
And that just makes me think about
the perspective of what if, right?
What if it does work?
What if it does?
So thank you both for just sharing such awesome information
today around some of these stigmas and helping people to
maybe break those down a little bit so that they
can live a better quality of life.
Because I think that's the goal, right?
That's really what you're trying to do here is share
great information with people so that they can consider whether
or not this might be an option that they would
allow to help them in their lives.
So if people wanted to connect with you further,
get more information, hear more about your knowledge, your
products, all of that, what would be the best
place for them to go and find out more?
Yeah, absolutely.
Go to our website@bluegrassandboyle.com, we
send out bi weekly newsletters.
So register, subscribe for a newsletter, go to our
Facebook page, engage with our post or engage with
the other consumers that are there as well and
ask them the questions too, right?
That's what they're there for.
Yeah, read some of the oh, gosh,
I'm blanking on the word blog.
Yeah, well, definitely read the blog.
Those are fantastic and really address
some of the frequently asked questions.
But the consumer reviews, I think a lot
of people read the reviews and they see
in that person something that reflects themselves and
it really strikes home for them.
So I think read the reviews.
They really speak for themselves. Yeah. Awesome.
Well, for this episode of full spectrum
living with CBD, I'm your co host
Meredith with our host Jessica and Adrian.
It's been awesome sharing with you guys and
we'll see you all around the next time. Bye.
